Comments on: CC HOWTO #2: How to use a work with a NonCommercial license http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:03:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Manish http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-53391 Manish Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:10:31 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-53391 Hi Molly,, Another use case, is use of open course-ware such as MIT OCW on an ad supported, free to use educational forum. Will it constitute a commercial use? Hi Molly,,

Another use case, is use of open course-ware such as MIT OCW on an ad supported, free to use educational forum. Will it constitute a commercial use?

]]> By: Can I use Images from Te Papa’s Collection Online? – The difference between Commercial and Non-Commercial Use « Te Papa’s Blog http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-53365 Can I use Images from Te Papa’s Collection Online? – The difference between Commercial and Non-Commercial Use « Te Papa’s Blog Mon, 03 Oct 2011 03:55:22 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-53365 [...] The examples are adapted from this blog post by Molly Kleinman, available under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 United States License Share [...] [...] The examples are adapted from this blog post by Molly Kleinman, available under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 United States License Share [...]

]]> By: Hugh Macken http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-44152 Hugh Macken Mon, 25 Oct 2010 08:11:35 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-44152 Molly, Thanks for your post on this important topic. I like @Cem Argun's question because it relates to mine. Let's take the case of a corporate blog that is NOT ad-supported but is used to help a company in its marketing efforts to establish itself as a leader in the industry. This would be considered commercial use, would it not? Any thoughts would be appreciated! Molly,
Thanks for your post on this important topic. I like @Cem Argun’s question because it relates to mine. Let’s take the case of a corporate blog that is NOT ad-supported but is used to help a company in its marketing efforts to establish itself as a leader in the industry. This would be considered commercial use, would it not? Any thoughts would be appreciated!

]]> By: David Hobson http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-42707 David Hobson Sun, 08 Aug 2010 10:20:30 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-42707 So let's get down to reality. 1. Why don't we ask to play it safe? 2. If we make a mistake, honor the creator's wishes. (They can always attain a different copyright to legalize their wishes if they have to.) 3. If there is a miscommunication, support basic CC awareness and encourage them to label and clarify their work appropriately. Any thoughts? *I hate thinking about this because I'd really like to build and ad-supported database of resources, but there's no way I could without the financial compensation. Asking every author of CCL work in the database is almost impossible. I don't want to deprive the community, but I have to be realistic to myself. I don't want to build the thing and have to take it down because of licencing. Gah! I could ask for donations and such, but again, there could be an extensive amount of work only to have the project collapse. Hm... Any thoughts? So let’s get down to reality.
1. Why don’t we ask to play it safe?
2. If we make a mistake, honor the creator’s wishes. (They can always attain a different copyright to legalize their wishes if they have to.)
3. If there is a miscommunication, support basic CC awareness and encourage them to label and clarify their work appropriately.

Any thoughts?

*I hate thinking about this because I’d really like to build and ad-supported database of resources, but there’s no way I could without the financial compensation. Asking every author of CCL work in the database is almost impossible. I don’t want to deprive the community, but I have to be realistic to myself. I don’t want to build the thing and have to take it down because of licencing. Gah! I could ask for donations and such, but again, there could be an extensive amount of work only to have the project collapse. Hm… Any thoughts?

]]> By: Cem Argun http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-35192 Cem Argun Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:12:13 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-35192 Let's assume this scenario: I have a personal blog that I maintain for self-promotion. I use lots nc images, videos & text that create lots&lots of traffic that make me famous. The web-site is not commercial but I make millions from book deals and speaking assignments. How about that? Is it non-commercial? Let’s assume this scenario:
I have a personal blog that I maintain for self-promotion. I use lots nc images, videos & text that create lots&lots of traffic that make me famous. The web-site is not commercial but I make millions from book deals and speaking assignments. How about that? Is it non-commercial?

]]> By: Community Generated HowTos - Creative Commons http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-33364 Community Generated HowTos - Creative Commons Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:04:55 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-33364 [...] HowTo #2, Molly gives some examples to demonstrate our NonCommercial [...] [...] HowTo #2, Molly gives some examples to demonstrate our NonCommercial [...]

]]> By: Harald Walker http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-30105 Harald Walker Tue, 12 May 2009 18:34:58 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-30105 Unfortunately CC took down the NC Guidelines (Draft Discussion) from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/DiscussionDraftNonCommercial_Guidelines. The NC study is still going on and the CC community has more questions than answers. I hope this situation is being clarified soon. CC is picking up momentum and NC makes things fuzzy and complicated. Unfortunately CC took down the NC Guidelines (Draft Discussion) from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/DiscussionDraftNonCommercial_Guidelines. The NC study is still going on and the CC community has more questions than answers. I hope this situation is being clarified soon. CC is picking up momentum and NC makes things fuzzy and complicated.

]]> By: The Songnumbers Team http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-25123 The Songnumbers Team Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:38:06 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-25123 We really liked your blog and this info on the ad-supported model...we believe in it enough to have just pushed out BETA 2 of our site! Sincerely, The Songnumbers Team We really liked your blog and this info on the ad-supported model…we believe in it enough to have just pushed out BETA 2 of our site!

Sincerely,
The Songnumbers Team

]]> By: Harald Walker http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-2208 Harald Walker Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:21:16 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-2208 I think the gray area starts with the 'primarily intended' condition of the deed. When is something primarily intended? The restaurant using music in the background is primarily selling food and a service. Not the music directly or the possibility to listen to the music. What about a netlabel party? Can you charge an entrance fee, can you sell beverages? What if you just make sure you don't make any profit (just covering the costs), then one could argue, that it is not directed towards commercial advantage. I think the gray area starts with the ‘primarily intended’ condition of the deed. When is something primarily intended? The restaurant using music in the background is primarily selling food and a service. Not the music directly or the possibility to listen to the music. What about a netlabel party? Can you charge an entrance fee, can you sell beverages? What if you just make sure you don’t make any profit (just covering the costs), then one could argue, that it is not directed towards commercial advantage.

]]> By: CTW http://mollykleinman.com/2008/08/21/cc-howto-2-how-to-use-a-work-with-a-noncommercial-license/comment-page-1/#comment-1880 CTW Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:49:35 +0000 http://mollykleinman.com/?p=58#comment-1880 Hi Molly, I have a rather amateurish blog that reviews CC netlabel releases (and the occasional free release from bands looking to to drum up some publicity). My blog does not feature adverts and always links to the artists reviewed, encouraging visitors to make donations or to purchase CDs, etc. I do not receive any income at all from the blog. Two quick questions: 1. I wish to install (the free) Yahoo Media Player so that visitors can hear embedded mp3s/audio files in my blog's posts. Would this constitute advertsing for Yahoo and so breach the CC NC licence? 2. An online magazine has asked me if I'd like my blog's content to be circulated at their website, which is run by a private company that takes advertising. I probably won't take up their offer but I'd like to know if circulating a CC blog's CC content to a commercial enterprise would also contradict the NC agreement. Thank you. Hi Molly,

I have a rather amateurish blog that reviews CC netlabel releases (and the occasional free release from bands looking to to drum up some publicity). My blog does not feature adverts and always links to the artists reviewed, encouraging visitors to make donations or to purchase CDs, etc. I do not receive any income at all from the blog.

Two quick questions:

1. I wish to install (the free) Yahoo Media Player so that visitors can hear embedded mp3s/audio files in my blog’s posts. Would this constitute advertsing for Yahoo and so breach the CC NC licence?

2. An online magazine has asked me if I’d like my blog’s content to be circulated at their website, which is run by a private company that takes advertising. I probably won’t take up their offer but I’d like to know if circulating a CC blog’s CC content to a commercial enterprise would also contradict the NC agreement.

Thank you.

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