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	<title>Comments on: Lessons from Open Access Week</title>
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		<title>By: Information costs and open access &#171; What Is Research?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Information costs and open access &#171; What Is Research?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] indifferent to open access in practice, even while they may support it in principle. For instance, in this blog post, open access advocate and University of Michigan librarian Molly Kleinman writes: Most of the time, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Students and Open Access &#171; Open Education News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Students and Open Access &#171; Open Education News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Molly Kleinman pondering the possible role of undergraduates in advocating open access. From the Kleinman&#8217;s post:  The high cost of purchasing scholarly journals contributes to the rising cost of education, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Molly Kleinman pondering the possible role of undergraduates in advocating open access. From the Kleinman&#8217;s post:  The high cost of purchasing scholarly journals contributes to the rising cost of education, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Recent news on students and open access &#8212; Open Students</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recent news on students and open access &#8212; Open Students</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] University of Michigan librarian Molly Kleinman writes that undergraduates have an important role to play in advocating for open access. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pieter Kleymeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pieter Kleymeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great thoughts on the subject and I was happy to participate this last week in some of the discussion.

We (Open.Michigan) are also thinking about how to engage students, particularly undergraduates, in advocacy and include them in this conversation. They are already creating new community standards for sharing work and ideas, but this has mainly been in the amateur world where profit hasn&#039;t mattered. However, they all understand that big media is controlling content and forcing them to make concessions about sharing certain types of content. They want to retaliate but sometimes do not know how. My point here is that the culture is changing and movements like Open Access and Open Education might join in with groups like &lt;a href=&quot;http://freeculture.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Students for Free Culture&lt;/a&gt;. The base principles have quite a bit of crossover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great thoughts on the subject and I was happy to participate this last week in some of the discussion.</p>
<p>We (Open.Michigan) are also thinking about how to engage students, particularly undergraduates, in advocacy and include them in this conversation. They are already creating new community standards for sharing work and ideas, but this has mainly been in the amateur world where profit hasn&#8217;t mattered. However, they all understand that big media is controlling content and forcing them to make concessions about sharing certain types of content. They want to retaliate but sometimes do not know how. My point here is that the culture is changing and movements like Open Access and Open Education might join in with groups like <a href="http://freeculture.org" rel="nofollow">Students for Free Culture</a>. The base principles have quite a bit of crossover.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevan Harnad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevan Harnad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: Surely there was some discussion of Michigan congressman John Conyer&#039;s bill attempting to overturn the NIH OA mandate?

Comment 1: Whether one accepts the http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/442-guid.html definitions of the two kinds of Open Access (&quot;gratis&quot; and &quot;libre&quot;) or one prefers to deny free access the honorific of &quot;open,&quot; the fact is that we do not even have free online access (whatever we choose to call it), and that asking nonproviding authors to do more, and asking institutions and funders to mandate that they do more is even more difficult than just getting them to provide the free online access, which only 72 institutions and funders -- out of perhaps 10,000 worldwide -- are so far doing. (Without even that, it&#039;s all just a name-game.)

(The necessity of http://tinyurl.com/cbprro &quot;re-use rights&quot; for the verbatim texts of peer-reviewed research journal articles (as opposed research data, or Disney cartoons) is perhaps also worth giving some more thought.)

Comment 2: For how students can help OA, see: http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/358-guid.html &quot;The University&#039;s Mandate To Mandate Open Access.&quot;

Comment 3: Before getting too taken up by the theory of the &quot;Great Conversation,&quot; it might be a good idea to makes sure free access (at the very least) is provided to its target content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: Surely there was some discussion of Michigan congressman John Conyer&#8217;s bill attempting to overturn the NIH OA mandate?</p>
<p>Comment 1: Whether one accepts the <a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/442-guid.html" rel="nofollow">http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/442-guid.html</a> definitions of the two kinds of Open Access (&#8220;gratis&#8221; and &#8220;libre&#8221;) or one prefers to deny free access the honorific of &#8220;open,&#8221; the fact is that we do not even have free online access (whatever we choose to call it), and that asking nonproviding authors to do more, and asking institutions and funders to mandate that they do more is even more difficult than just getting them to provide the free online access, which only 72 institutions and funders &#8212; out of perhaps 10,000 worldwide &#8212; are so far doing. (Without even that, it&#8217;s all just a name-game.)</p>
<p>(The necessity of <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cbprro" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cbprro</a> &#8220;re-use rights&#8221; for the verbatim texts of peer-reviewed research journal articles (as opposed research data, or Disney cartoons) is perhaps also worth giving some more thought.)</p>
<p>Comment 2: For how students can help OA, see: <a href="http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/358-guid.html" rel="nofollow">http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/358-guid.html</a> &#8220;The University&#8217;s Mandate To Mandate Open Access.&#8221;</p>
<p>Comment 3: Before getting too taken up by the theory of the &#8220;Great Conversation,&#8221; it might be a good idea to makes sure free access (at the very least) is provided to its target content.</p>
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